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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject:
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Before i begin to speak, i need to emphasise something! I LIKE TOTAL OWNAGE.

Most of the players in this game that i am friendly with are from Total Ownage.

However i am just posting this toppic to highlight the problm of Total Ownage.
And unfortunately i fear that it is an everending cycle of problems.


Total Ownage contain the greatest players in this game -- There is no doubt about that.
But that is the problem, back when i started this game all the best players of this game had there own alliances and the greatest alliances were (not in order)

WoC, Nazgul, Species and Privateers.
Each alliance had its own leader, its own ally annd its own ego (lol)

I miss those times. I really do.

But each alliance that i have mentioned above fell into ruin Nazgul broke apart and i (a noob back then ) caused the alliance to fall apart.

Theother alliances also fell apart.
But something happened then that would change the course of Sacetrace forever and in my opinion it would change it for the worse.
These alliance broke up into two groups of experienced players.
The first group and the more powerful was Total Ownage led by Shade of Capetonier and The other was HSA
These alliances had a war and the HSA were defeated.

Some of the members of HSA then joined Total Ownage (others did not)

But dont you see --- From the time of WoC all of the great players have joined total ownage and i find this very sad.
Because now there is almost no way to combat total ownage and i fear that they will remain number one.
Because of Total Ownage there are no galactic war like the Species+Privateers and Space Academy Vs Neo-Nazgul WoC and Borg Empire.

And the reason for this is because all the leaders or rather all the hero's of Spacetrace are in the one alliance.
What this website needs are hero's.

For only with the defeat of Total Ownage can we once again have great wars and have a real battle for the number 1 position...

Please do not get me wrong i like total ownage, its just it would be nice to go back to the way spacetrace was.

Do not consider me an enemy of Total Ownage because i am not. Thank you for listening to this. And i hope that it inspires some alliance to defeat Total ownage. Because that alliance will not be my own nor will i have naything to do with it.

Once again thank you for listening, after all this topic is long.
Fell free to comment, even talk abot the pastof spacetrace.

Many regards to Species, WoC , the former members of Neo-Nazgul, Kameikaze, Shade and all the members of Total Ownage.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject:
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Good topic point, thank you thank you for all this nice words.

But you forget that a lot of players from species, privateers and nazgul are not in TO. A lot of the hero's are roaming space, or maybe taking a break, TO consists of players who really didn't play that long, only a few exceptions. The key is in my opinion that we just have a very well coordinated team, and to counter a coordinated team, u need another one. We are NOT unbeatable

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject:
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Good topic point, thank you thank you for all this nice words.

But you forget that a lot of players from species, privateers and nazgul are not in TO. A lot of the hero's are roaming space, or maybe taking a break, TO consists of players who really didn't play that long, only a few exceptions. The key is in my opinion that we just have a very well coordinated team, and to counter a coordinated team, u need another one. We are NOT unbeatable

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject:
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I'm not sayin we will never be defeated, it's just that in these times of this modern age, we are unbeatable.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject:
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Indeed, a good topic.

Yes, there are experienced players in TO, but even or more players are outside TO.

But, i would ask all others, form an alliance and attack TO. Mabey it will be hard, but this gives some nice action to the game. So i would ask, form a good and well coordinated alliance to attack TO.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject:
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Dutchbatter, it is not as easy as it sounds.
I personnally have tried to take Ttoal Ownage down twice.
And the reasons why both rebellions failed was because of Human Nature:
Here is the first rebellion
http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3187&forum=21

The Pentician alliance was a group of five alliances that were to group togethor, they were
The Survivors of Auir (SOA)
The New sons of Korhal (NSK)
The Borg Empire
Ape Empire1 and Ape Empire2 (Ape Empire)
The United Federation of Planets

However this rebellion fell apart because only three of these alliances merged (Triumvirate) The United Federation of planets was a split from The Borg Empire led b me and that only came to an end about two weeks ago.
Eventually i gave up on the Pentician alliance it just wouldn't work because i realised one person could not Control 5 alliances at one time.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject:
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Here is the second Rebellion which also failed by Human Nature:
http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3400&forum=21

That alliance rebellion was set up by 13ier and as you can see at the start i was against this Rebellion because i still had hope for the pentician. But when that fell apart i turned my attention to this and as you read on you will see that it fell apart because lol Someone called kever (a friend of mine) a snow fucker.
Thus i got angry and the alliance fell apart.

I can tell you now btw that 13ier was a fake he was a mystical character set up by beer from the cold fridge and if you check teir ip codes you will see that they are the same. Yes thats right, the second rebellion as run by a multi who now resides in black ops as "The Patron of The Collectivity"

And that is a short brief History of the two uprisings against Total Ownage.
As you can see; both failed.
Thank you.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject:
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It would be a change to see someone else at top for a change!!!

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject:
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the thing was that hsa could not function with inactive members, when war with TO started the two sides were evenly balanced, then after a while HSA was winning due to shade's personal problems (he had to redecorate) anyway most of TO followed suit and also became inactive, then shadecame back and HSA were the inactive ones, with big boy and tweety out, and i think metody also became the underdogs, then DB and gorth left and i left too, after that HSA was reduced to what it is today, some members went to TO and others went to ICP or are still breaking from the game, so u can say that TO won but in my opinion HSA self destructed and was helped along by TO.(TO deserve credit for being the last alliance standing)

anyway i think TO should do us all a favour and start fighting eachother

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject:
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@ Promethius, that's what i mean with "well coordinated"

Promethius, ask blackmagic and lance of armcedy, they are both experienced and want probally fight TO. Mabey kame can help too. Dunno know where the most other experienced players are, i am just back of my break.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject:
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We will see perhaps in the future....

Right now we are busy with our assault on H.O.R.N.Y.

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On 2005-01-10 19:23, kamekaze6 wrote:
the thing was that hsa could not function with inactive members, when war with TO started the two sides were evenly balanced, then after a while HSA was winning due to shade's personal problems (he had to redecorate) anyway most of TO followed suit and also became inactive, then shadecame back and HSA were the inactive ones, with big boy and tweety out, and i think metody also became the underdogs, then DB and gorth left and i left too, after that HSA was reduced to what it is today, some members went to TO and others went to ICP or are still breaking from the game, so u can say that TO won but in my opinion HSA self destructed and was helped along by TO.(TO deserve credit for being the last alliance standing)

anyway i think TO should do us all a favour and start fighting eachother


Sorrrrrrrrrrrry Mate !!!
You are so totally off....
NEVER EVER did ONE single TO EVER give up BECAUSE Shade left...
NO NO NO ....Darmadon, Coolrunner, Kepch...Tea....and every one of us FOUGHT and FOUGHT and FOUGHT....Once again....I Salute Darmadon for this period !!!
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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject:
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Dutchbatter wrote:
form a good and well coordinated alliance to attack TO.



He IS right, a well coordinated and swift attack may lead to the distruction of TO.
Things that happened in the past may not happen in the future, ever alliance is beatable, even the great Total Ownage.
It will come in the future, if DB, Kame, Promethius, Lance,Dark link and all the other good players out of TO combine forces, then it'll we like the good old past

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ok most of TO didn t quit but there was lessactivity, 3 members left and when i talked to brown (dunno his name now i lost track) he was a bit upset about shade not being able to play also

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He has a point, TO is unbeatable

[ This Message was edited by: Skyfreak on 2005-01-12 22:52 ]

kame u i mean

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that edit thing rox

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of coarse we are unbeatable...
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On 2005-01-12 21:02, kamekaze6 wrote:
ok most of TO didn t quit but there was lessactivity, 3 members left and when i talked to brown (dunno his name now i lost track) he was a bit upset about shade not being able to play also


With Shade went Brown and Sola and ....damn, forgot the name of the fourth.....
And not ONE TO Player quit the war or got less active NO NO NO !!!!!!
We suffered a big loss, with our flag went Shade and all his Danish friends...
The rest of us deserve to know that WE DID IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@ Promethius, if u attack HORNY U kill another alliance that could help against TO.

If u want to attack TO, make peace like this:
Clones make peace with HORNY
Paradox and DH make peace with Black Ops.

If u do that, u can have peace between the biggest alliance that are here now.

Then we contact Lance of Armedy and ask him if he could help coordinating a iron-strong alliance of about 20 or 25 goood players
( mainly from the alliances that made peace)

If u have a well coordinated alliance that is big enough, experienced enough and all members listen to ONE leader, then u can have a great chance.

All members should vote for one or more people who want to be the leader of this.

Possibilities: Lance/ Kame/ Dark Link/ Connour /And the leader of the Clones


@ all of Spacetrace:

Join this war
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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject:

Dont worry Brutus.

There was always a Master-Plan.
You dont know it, in fact only the leaders of the Pentician alliance still know it.
But it is actually in motion right now.

The end will come before this year. I swear that to you.

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