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Connor McCloud
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject:
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why didn't my class 2 ships destroy enemey class 3 ???



your base fights against fleet 1 from XXXX XXXXX of XXXXXX at XXX/XXX/XXX - the enemy fleet arrived

yours: 411 ships
class 1:
31 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
21 emp-fighters (0/1, 1 MP)
300 sabotage fighters (0/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
10 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
10 shield generators (0/2, 4 MP)
11 holo-clone-ships (0/5, 12 MP)
10 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 3:
3 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
5 cyclopses (0/100, 120 MP)
10 plasma gunship (0/100, 92 MP)
class 4:
buildings:
1 transwarp-network (0/100, 0 MP)
1 defensive array (0/500, 0 MP)
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
1 shipyard (0/3500, 0 MP)

enemy: 1751 ships
class 1:
1728 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
9 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
1 pirate ship (0/5, 15 MP)
class 3:
12 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1: V ^
you:
31 fighters
21 emp-fighters
300 sabotage fighters
enemy:
1728 fighters



289 sabotage fighters start mission
21 EMP-fighter jam 21 ships
10 sabotage fighters destroy 10 ships
31 fighters vs 31 fighters






21 fighters vs 21 emp-fighters
300 fighters vs 300 sabotage fighters
31 fighters vs 31 fighters




losses:
you :
31 fighters
21 emp-fighters
300 sabotage fighters
enemy :
31 fighters
9 destroyers
1 pirate ship
score in this subbattle: -234

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your class 2 vs enemy class 2: V ^
you:
10 destroyers
11 holo-clone-ships
10 shield generators
10 wasps
enemy:













losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0

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your class 3 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
3 cruisers
5 cyclopses
10 plasma gunship
enemy:
12 cruisers



9 plasma gun locks on one target and kill 9 ships
5 cyclopses destroy 500 ships
3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers






3 cruisers vs 3 cyclopses
3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers
6 cruisers vs 6 plasma gunship




losses:
you :
3 cruisers
3 cyclopses
6 plasma gunship
enemy :
500 fighters
12 cruisers
score in this subbattle: 128

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
1 shipyard
1 research center
1 transwarp-network
1 defensive array
enemy:
1 mothership



1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships










losses:
you :
-
enemy :
50 fighters
score in this subbattle: 50

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summary:
your losses:
class 1:
300 sabotage fighters
31 fighters
21 emp-fighters
class 3:
6 plasma gunship
3 cruisers
3 cyclopses

enemy losses:
class 1:
581 fighters
class 2:
9 destroyers
1 pirate ship
class 3:
12 cruisers

score: -56

I don't get this
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject:
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your class 2 would only fight nemy class 3 if he had no class2. but since the class 2 already fought vs class2 it couldn t fight again
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Connor McCloud
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject:
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better look at the br again his class 2 is destroyed with my class1
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject:
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yes you re right this is a bug because the class 2 was destroyed before it fought

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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject:
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Dunno if it's a bug, it was reported some time ago already but by another ship, i think. It sucks, I know.
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject:
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Then what use is there for sabotage fighters if there is still a class-2 battle. Might aswell use mine deployers then. Ack, I use those anyways.

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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:29 pm    Post subject:
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thats weird :S
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject:
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It is an advantage/disadvantage to both parties. There are several ships that have similar effects. Sabs are nice ships but tricky to use effectively. There is no bug as far as I can see, if the sabs destroy a ship, then there has been a class 2 battle.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject:
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this is no bug.

a class that will destroyed from the distance (from another class) is not considered as empty and blocks.

but i will overthink if this should be changed.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject:
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If that's how it is spacetrace, then why would I want tu use sabs? I would do better to use mines with ten times more damage.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject:
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If a sabotage fighter acts, it damages the class2 immediately. A mine deployer put a mine in class2, but the mines still needs to explode, which happens in the 'real' class2 battle. Or so I think.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject:
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sabotage fighters can be usefull in many cases,

wiping out a class without fighting against it can be needed if there is a spectre in class2.

best example: there is a hq invader in class 2 , if oyu kill it with sabs it will have no chance to release the troops ...
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Connor McCloud
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject:
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So you say that it has no use to wipe out class 2 because my class 2 won't fight my enemy class 3 , What if I use plasma gunships and no class 2 and I take out his class 3 my cruisers won't attack his Mothership it is almost the same only different classes
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 Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:05 am    Post subject:
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sabotage fighters should be used by them self not with other class 1 ships that way they all fire and yes they are tricky to use but if used correctly can be devastating to large class 2.
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 Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:21 am    Post subject:
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There is a bug however, it is hard to pick, but basically, if your sabs wipe out the enemy class 2, sometimes your class 2 fights class 3, and sometimes it doesnt.

It should be one or the other.

Btw, one way, I had your flag. sob
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Fake

So where can i get the real one from then?
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