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this can be added to the game |
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention |
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i will post the needed changes here |
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no good try another one |
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tec_server Technology Bot
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: extremist |
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extremist (class 4 ship)
extremist commands 10 c1 ships, 5 c2 ships, and 1 c3 ship to suicide bomb the enemy mothership and destroy it. if the enemy has no mothership, these ships are destroyed by enemy ships while they are looking for a mothership to bomb. after extremist has seen out the attack, it flies into the remains of the mothership suicidally in an act of respect towards the other suicidal ships. if no ships are present in c1, c2, or c3, extremist suicide bombs the mothership on its own and destroys it.
attack/life: 0/100
manpower: 300
researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 12 h
kazuuula-technology
needed research:
fanatic warfare
battle details:reduces LP to 0 of 10 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 1 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "10 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,10,1,all,10 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 5 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 2 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "5 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,5,2,all,5 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 ship of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 3 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "1 ship suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,1,3,all,1 ship suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 mothership in the enemy fleet in class 4 but some ships are immune against destruction
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,1,4,mothership,,p,some of your ships attempted to suicide the enemy´s mothership)
self destructs!
battlemessage: "extremist self destructs"
(battle engine syntax: sd,extremist self destructs,n) |
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Jack09 Vice Admiral
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 504 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Its a good idea, A lot of mp, but its still a good idea, but it shouldnt be race limited. But i dont like the idea of it taking any ship in your fleet to suicide bomb, cause you might have something good in your fleet, but you could always just do it alone with some crappy ships. _________________ 11/11/11 |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Jack09 wrote: | Its a good idea, A lot of mp |
well i was thinking that you could send in a fleet with 1 fighter, 1 destroyer, 1 cruizer, 1 extremist, and 1 core driver. the enemy fleet will take out your class 1-3, but then when its the extremist's turn, it takes out the mothership. you score a minimum of -49 (sd factors into the score, right?) unless your core driver get take out. but now the enemy is stranded and you know exactly what is in its fleet. your next two fleets take it out completely and you score big.
the idea wasn't to score big with this ship, but instead to take out the enemy's transport. there are plenty of ways around this (not using a mothership), but they all involve either using lots of mp and reducing fleet size, using risky warp ships and endangering the fleet, or going annoyingly slowly.
i think the mp could go down 50. 100 max (with above mentioned fleet score ≥ 1 or 51) this was what i was shooting for: a ship that when smartly used didn't score points, but set you up for scoring points by leaving the enemy stranded.
Jack09 wrote: | it shouldnt be race limited |
i agree, but when i was creating it, it wouldn't let me submit the ship until i chose a race. can someone tell me how to get around this for next time?
also if anyone has suggestions on research and build times. that is one part of the tech creation process i have no idea about. |
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Jack09 Vice Admiral
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 504 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Very good idea, but it is almost a ambush ship as well, yes you could come in and take their mothership and know what is in their fleet, but the one who got attacked could also have allies waiting right outside the battle zone and when you come back boom your the one in the ambush, very good ship, but it needs some changes, my compliments to you. _________________ 11/11/11 |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: Re: extremist |
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tec_server wrote: | extremist (class 4 ship)
extremist commands 10 c1 ships, 5 c2 ships, and 1 c3 ship to suicide bomb the enemy mothership and destroy it. if the enemy has no mothership, these ships are destroyed by enemy ships while they are looking for a mothership to bomb. after extremist has seen out the attack, it flies into the remains of the mothership suicidally in an act of respect towards the other suicidal ships. if no ships are present in c1, c2, or c3, extremist suicide bombs the mothership on its own and destroys it.
attack/life: 0/100
manpower: 200
researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 12 h
needed research:
fanatic warfare
battle details:reduces LP to 0 of 10 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 1 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "10 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,10,1,all,10 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 5 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 2 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "5 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,5,2,all,5 ships suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 ship of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 3 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "1 ship suicided the enemy´s mothership"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,1,3,all,1 ship suicided the enemy´s mothership,n)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 mothership in the enemy fleet in class 4 but some ships are immune against destruction
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,1,4,mothership,,p,some of your ships attempted to suicide the enemy´s mothership)
self destructs!
battlemessage: "extremist self destructs"
(battle engine syntax: sd,extremist self destructs,n) |
here is the new and slightly improved extremist. i just took the mp down to 200.
as far as usage, i think it would be fun to send it to a often visited pre-warp planet (one with tech on it or something else). when a fleet shows up, you would take out its warp capability, then send in a fleet to kill it. lots of fun. |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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in the improved version i also got rid of the race specification |
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Jack09 Vice Admiral
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 504 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: |
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dumenop wrote: | in the improved version i also got rid of the race specification |
Ya its good, pretty cool, id use this, very many possibilities. _________________ 11/11/11 |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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now that its been refined, lets get some ADMIN attention and get this thing on the production line! |
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Senor Admiral
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 1114 Location: estonia
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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there is already a ship called mantis that destroys motherships. |
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RenéeAB 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Palo Alto, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6530
BTW-YOU CAN'T "SUICIDE" SOMEONE ELSE _________________ "Hello, my friends, are you visible today? I never knew it could be so strange......shouldn't talk about the weather....shouldn't talk about the government...."
REM - Pop Song 89 |
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Durago 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 224 Location: where the corn grows as tall as the sky - iowa
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jack Kevorkian did
_________________ Trippin' Thru the Galaxy,
Spreadin' the Spores |
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Jack09 Vice Admiral
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 504 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Durago wrote: | Jack Kevorkian did
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Exactly, watch the news suicide bombs happen all the time or just watch battlestar galactica, stuff blows up all the time
OMG its Simon Cowell, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ 11/11/11 |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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if you check the syntax, there is no "suiciding" its just the idea around the ship |
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dumenop 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 153
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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and if you look it up, the mantis is completely different! extremist doesn't destroy a single c4 ship except for itself, and it only kills the enemy mothership, not the entire c4. if you're going to insult this ship, at least get the facts straight |
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Jack09 Vice Admiral
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 504 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Holy *** someone just got told by a NOOB, haha keep up the good work every.....
OMG itz simon cowellllllllllllllllllllll AhHHHHHHHHhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!11 _________________ 11/11/11 |
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