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spacetrace
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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:00 am    Post subject:
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we got some hints from some players...(about cheating)

we found dozens of battles like this:

your planet is under attack: fleet 1 from *** at ***
the enemy fleet arrived at 07:54:40

yours: 546 ships
class 2:
546 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
1 transwarp-network (0/100)

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enemy: 60 ships
class 3:
59 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)


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your planet is under attack: fleet 1 from *** at ***
the enemy fleet arrived at 05:16:22

yours: 3 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1)
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
buildings:
1 holo-relay-station (0/20)
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
1 transwarp-network (0/100)

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enemy: 967 ships
class 1:
966 commando-fighters (1/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
########################################
your planet is under attack: fleet 1 from *** at ***
the enemy fleet arrived at 18:33:19

yours: 3 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1)
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
1 transwarp-network (0/100)

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enemy: 910 ships
class 1:
909 commando-fighters (1/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
##########################################
your fleet 1 fights against the planet from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 06:57:51

yours: 3048 ships
class 1:
5 commando-fighters (1/1)
3039 fighters (1/1)
class 2:
2 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 57 ships
class 3:
56 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
##########################################
your fleet 1 fights against the planet from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 07:06:48

yours: 2584 ships
class 1:
5 commando-fighters (1/1)
2512 fighters (1/1)
1 mine-deployer (0/1)
class 2:
63 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
2 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 61 ships
class 3:
60 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
###########################################
your fleet 1 fights against the planet from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 15:04:52

yours: 2585 ships
class 1:
5 commando-fighters (1/1)
2512 fighters (1/1)
1 mine-deployer (0/1)
class 2:
65 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 61 ships
class 3:
60 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
#############################################
your fleet 1 fights against fleet 1 from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 22:31:54
the enemy fleet arrived at 05:47:15

yours: 2263 ships
class 1:
5 commando-fighters (1/1)
2253 fighters (1/1)
class 2:
3 eagles (2/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 60 ships
class 3:
59 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
##############################################
your fleet 1 fights against the planet from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 21:52:44

yours: 540 ships
class 2:
539 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
enemy: 60 ships
class 3:
60 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
###############################################
your fleet 1 fights against the planet from *** at ***
your fleet arrived at 07:27:51

yours: 2901 ships
class 1:
2684 fighters (1/1)
class 2:
214 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
2 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
enemy: 58 ships
class 3:
57 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
###########################################
your planet is under attack: fleet 1 from *** at ***
the enemy fleet arrived at 20:11:35

yours: 558 ships
class 2:
558 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
enemy: 57 ships
class 3:
56 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
#############################################
your planet is under attack: fleet 1 from *** at ***
the enemy fleet arrived at 07:54:40

yours: 546 ships
class 2:
546 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
1 transwarp-network (0/100)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
enemy: 60 ships
class 3:
59 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
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i suppose the players who did this battles ( and i am sure that they will know!!!... )should think of deleting their accounts and start new , real ones.

if not, the administration will do it for you.


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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:37 am    Post subject:
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Hello!

I don't know who these players are but I would like them to play fair and stop multi-accounting or what else.
The ST-Players form a nice community and we do have lots of fun without cheating. Everything should go on as it is/was so please do not destroy this harmony.

thx Tim
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revenge
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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:55 am    Post subject:
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12*5000=60000???
24*5000=120000?
36*5000=180000??
48*5000=240000?????
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what a waste of time...



[ This Message was edited by: revenge on 2002-04-04 15:35 ]
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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:23 pm    Post subject:
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Please tell me what´s wrong about these BRs?
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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 3:51 pm    Post subject:
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They are too advantageous for one of the two players. It is very unusual that the attacker has 546 destroyer and the defender 59 cruiser. Seems as the accounts are both played by one player or the players talked about this battle before an built the ships in a way that one player could make lots of points.

bye commander
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TYR
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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 6:20 pm    Post subject:
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a few minutes ago i made a blind attack (without deepscan data) on a planet. i made +4000 points cause there were just 58 cruiser !!!! first i was happy, but now i think this is a fake player which was awaiting another but me.

@all faker! please stop making fake players! it will destroy this great gratis game which is made by private persons. if you want to use this kind of cheats, please build your own game and leave this!
greetings
TYR!
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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 1:08 pm    Post subject:
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Was that the idea why "The Realms of Talon" got that many points???
I think it is more than cheating IF!
@the admins if they did this kind of cheating of else plz ban them or do whatever you are able to.
Thank you!

Bye

Hobbit
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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 7:27 pm    Post subject:
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we set a time limit for the cheating players to delete their accounts.
after that we will do something.

thx for your patience.
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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 10:03 pm    Post subject:
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i made me a lot of work and read all battle reports of the related accounts.

next time: all accounts of an cheating alliance will be frozen for a time ( i wont do that work again) after that time all cheating players should delete their accounts, if not the whole alliance will be deleted.

i hope you understand that...( its quite a lot of work )

i know that account sharing ( somebody is on vacation or something) is popular ( and the motivation is understandable),
pls. let it be!

all those who just played, sorry for the intermission.
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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 11:11 pm    Post subject:
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Thx for the hard work you did to get ST "clean".

bye commander
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:02 am    Post subject:
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hohoho,

seems as if the dylarIV or the Ruins of Talon
or whatever they (???-if its a THEY )are called took my jokes on the admins doomstar questions (see: forum->last round)too serious...

so i am rather sorry that i deliverd them the idea of how to cheat... but it shows that those guys where not even able to evolve their own cheating tricks

btw: 300000 in such a long time --- seems those guys did cheat quite bad anyway -- with the activity they showed i think it should be possible to do much more points in this time by cheating

and after its an open secret that me and wizard is the same person (now officially stated for those you wants to know but still werent sure)---i have to part the joy of their dull childish satisfiing of their poor ambitions:

04.04 07:10 From:XXXX

As Jesus said on the cross before he died: "It is finished." Indeed it is. Even with all of you combined, we doubled your power. It is pointless to continue playing. RoT won. We will be all quitting this game and moving on to archspace. We have bigger fish to fry. So long.


--> yes guys, you re finished....

and to the imperial scourge...with such loosy animies you play archspace???
well congratulations...as they must be cheating there too u must be quite good as they found it necessary to come here to try to tick u off...
so after you learned s.th. about their real tactical qualities...u better stay in spacetrace...for u can possibly only beat them in archspace by using the same unfair techniques....


peace




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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:13 am    Post subject:
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lord_philemon:

those br just came by cheating...one of the "battlepartners" (a multiaccount) tried to give many points to another account....

its quite easy (what u can see in those brs) to lose many points in a battle...and by this way cheat them to an other account...

peace
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 Post Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 9:40 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

as TYR said, the same happens to our alliance, we saw a dsp report showing a planet with 17 class 4 ships (minus 4 building), so we send a mantis to investigate !!! boom !!! there were 13 MS !!! 4160 points !!! we were puzzle by what kind of n00b would do that .... now we realize ... they continue spoiling the game.

Nikolas I
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 Post Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 10:55 pm    Post subject:
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So do you suspect those Alliance with high average points are cheaters?
I think some of them are good players not cheaters.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 8:05 am    Post subject:
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this is ancienct history limsky, from 2nd round I think.

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 Post Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:01 pm    Post subject:

maybe the players were stupid not cheaters. i think we should find more proof before accusation then kill the players who cheated by wiping them out totally and then just delete their accounts =)
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