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anon 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 19 May 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Hello Administrators of SpaceTrace
I have reason to believe that both Penguin of South Pole and Queen of The Borg have been cheating. I believe that their accounts should be terminated immediately.
Penguin cheats off MadCowChuck of Communistica in a battle where 200 of Penguin's destroyers attack NINE of MadCowChuck's motherships. Queen cheats off Darkstone of Medroi in two battles at the same time, where Darkstone has FIFTY-FOUR cruisers and FIVE motherships.
-Anonymous
[ This Message was edited by: anon on 2002-05-19 02:41 ] |
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anon 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 19 May 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:40 am Post subject: |
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2002-05-18 09:49:06
your [Penguin of South Pole's] fleet 1 fights against the base from MadCowChuck of Communistica at 459/513/40
yours: 201 ships
class 2:
200 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
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enemy: 9 ships
class 4:
9 motherships (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:
200 destroyers vs 2 motherships
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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Summary:
your losses:
-
enemy losses:
class 4:
2 motherships
score: 640
[ This Message was edited by: anon on 2002-05-19 02:45 ] |
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anon 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 19 May 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:40 am Post subject: |
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2002-05-18 06:05:16
your [Queen of The Borg's] fleet 3 fights against the base from Darkstone of Medroi at 472/491/61
yours: 41 ships
class 1:
8 fighters (1/1)
class 2:
6 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
26 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
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enemy: 5 ships
class 4:
5 motherships (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
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your class 1 vs enemy class 4:
8 fighters vs 1 mothership
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-
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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:
6 destroyers vs 1 mothership
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-
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your class 3 vs enemy class 4:
20 cruisers vs 2 motherships
6 cruisers vs 1 mothership
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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Summary:
your losses:
-
enemy losses:
class 4:
2 motherships
score: 640
[ This Message was edited by: anon on 2002-05-19 02:45 ] |
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anon 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 19 May 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:43 am Post subject: |
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2002-05-18 06:05:14
your [Queen of The Borg's] fleet 1 fights against the base from Darkstone of Medroi at 472/491/61
yours: 2 ships
class 4:
1 doomstar (0/900)
1 mothership (0/1000)
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enemy: 69 ships
class 1:
10 fighters (1/1)
class 3:
54 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
5 motherships (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
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your class 4 vs enemy class 1:
1 doomstar creates a black hole that swallows all ships of class 1 to 3
1 fighter vs 1 doomstar
Losses:
You :
1 doomstar
Enemy :
10 fighters
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your class 4 vs enemy class 3:
Losses:
You :
1 doomstar
Enemy :
54 cruisers
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
1 doomstar
Enemy :
-
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Summary:
your losses:
class 4:
1 doomstar
enemy losses:
class 1:
10 fighters
class 3:
54 cruisers
score: 950
[ This Message was edited by: anon on 2002-05-19 02:46 ] |
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:51 am Post subject: |
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some players have bad constructed fleets with many mother ships or unprotected cruisers.
single battles like this can happen.
we are scanning for multi accounts and will delete them if necessary.
by the way... where did you get these battle reports ( it seems they sended them to you !?)
[ This Message was edited by: spacetrace on 2002-05-19 02:56 ] |
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Frederik 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 186
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:08 am Post subject: |
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2002-05-18 09:49:06
your fleet 1 fights against the base from MadCowChuck of Communistica at 459/513/40
yours: 201 ships
class 2:
200 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
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enemy: 9 ships
class 4:
9 motherships (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:
200 destroyers vs 2 motherships
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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Summary:
your losses:
-
enemy losses:
class 4:
2 motherships
score: 640
This BR is mine indeed.
I never send it to anyone, so I have no idea how you got it. (Are you both Madcowchuck and Darkstone or did you find a way of viewing other players BR's?).
Quote: | I have reason to believe that both Penguin of South Pole and Queen of The Borg have been cheating. I believe that their accounts should be terminated immediately. |
I dont like being called a cheater, nor would I like for my account being terminated. Maybe you thought you could enter the top10 by eliminating the top10 players this way?
But most I am conserned how you got my BR.
About the BR :
There are several players with such strange fleets. (hint : check out players that have been offline for multiple days).
[ This Message was edited by: Frederik on 2002-05-19 11:09 ] |
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untouchable Captain
Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 146
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:52 am Post subject: |
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How did he manage to get the BRs? Since they state YOUR FLEET 1 FIGHTS AGAINST... the BRs have to belong to Green and Queen!
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On 2002-05-19 02:40, anon wrote:
2002-05-18 09:49:06
your [Penguin of South Pole's] fleet 1 fights against the base from MadCowChuck of Communistica at 459/513/40
yours: 201 ships
class 2:
200 destroyers (10/10)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
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enemy: 9 ships
class 4:
9 motherships (0/1000)
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)
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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:
200 destroyers vs 2 motherships
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
2 motherships
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Summary:
your losses:
-
enemy losses:
class 4:
2 motherships
score: 640
[ This Message was edited by: anon on 2002-05-19 02:45 ]
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Hobbit 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:58 am Post subject: |
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I can tell you, that I KNOW that Queen of the Borg is NOT CHEATING!!!
The player is in my class and so I know him and trust in his play.
Again the Q. Where did you get these Battle Reports???
Bye
Hobbit |
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Dougster 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 251
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I dont believe either of those player would ever cheat.
I find your posts mysterious and offensive |
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Bilerator 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 203 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:21 am Post subject: |
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It is idiocy to say of Green Dragon that he is cheating ... who do you think are you talking of ? GD has been playing since the first round and was always one of the best players, and as he says, inactive players with many motherships are quite often, and I wonder how you got those BR's. If we find you, you will see that this was an own goal ^^ |
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Lord Philemon Vice Admiral
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 Posts: 556 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Although I was not in the top ten list last round (had some bad luck...) I can tell you that I would never cheat.
And I also want to know how you got my BR. I didn't send it to anyone and you can't be Darkstone because he was offline since 5d... |
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untouchable Captain
Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 146
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Either one of the admins wrote this message (Don't think so) or there is a security gap in spacetrace! |
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peace of love 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 306
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:44 am Post subject: |
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@ anon: its quite good that you keep your eyes open to find cheaters.
if the others find this offensive its because its not nice to post that accusals to the forum as they might be wrong.
--> it that case i am sure that penguin didnt cheat ( i dont know the other guy/girl - but i dont think he/she is cheating)
--> better send them to the admins to check it out.
--> i think the admins should state in the forum if any players are banned for cheating
because thats something of interest for the community.
--> as it was said some players dont play clever. so battles like the above might happen. but admins are able to recognize cheating in most cases.
@ penguin & queen: did u maybe post this BRs to an ally or posted it on your ally board ???
--> then maybe not all your allies are on line
--> otherwise i am strongly interested too in that BR-problem...
maybe its the same bug of the last round when i were greendragon and spock ????
greetings
peace of oz.
_________________ guruu... ruuu ... guuruuu |
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peace of love 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 306
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:49 am Post subject: |
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btw:
greendragon: well funny that penguin stuff but i thought your main tactic were an other one: the very tricky combination of two kinds of ships... ???
but as i am not going for points this round and as your friend i will leave out to post the two counterstrategies against this....
peace
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Lord Philemon Vice Admiral
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 Posts: 556 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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[ This Message was edited by: Lord Philemon on 2002-05-19 13:08 ] |
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Frederik 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 186
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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@peace :
I havent posted the BR to anyone anywhere.
If it's the bug you had before it's nice that anon didnt do any damage and I hope he will also report this bug to the admins.
BTW:
I am busy researching them
(half my fleet was at home during the attack )
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admin Board Admin
Joined: 09 Jan 2002 Posts: 2938
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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we found a security bug.
although i think it is very difficult to find.
it is fixed now |
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admin Board Admin
Joined: 09 Jan 2002 Posts: 2938
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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@anon: i am really curious if you found that security gap, because it was really not easy to find. i only found it because i know how the game is programmed.
thank you for revealing this security bug aniway. because without you we wouldn't have searched for it.
(anyway, the bug didnt give whole access to an other players account like that bug, peace spoke of) |
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admin Board Admin
Joined: 09 Jan 2002 Posts: 2938
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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i would really like to know if we have to take such thoroughly security precautions |
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Hobbit 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think so!
I never searched for any security gaps in the game, because I never wanted to hack another player's account! So I believe would no'ne else anyway. So you don't have to do further precaution!
It seems to me like cheating, that this guy "anon" hacked Queen's and GD's acoounts!!!
Bye
Hobbit
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbit on 2002-05-19 17:21 ] |
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