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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: Judgement Day has come.... |
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Dear friends from SpaceTrace. Judgement Day has come....
The problem
It started around june 22th. at first I noticed I was missing out messages in the message bar. I was lucky to have the habit of checking the messages link through the com screen but I was allready suspicious.
I talked to Chris, and we decided to all change our passwords. One of us also noticed that the enemie (PFIU) were familiar with our attack code.
We just hoped TO wasn't discredited with a spy, but the other explanation (somebody hacking us) also wasn't a fun idea to think about.
Solving the problem
So we concluded there was only one way to sort this out in a decent way. It was to ask the admin for IP-scans and search through them.
I asked the usernames of most TO players, all members from PFIU and two people wearing the name guak (Those are suspected multies and we thought it was nice to catch those in the same blow.)
We received quite a list, and we started to sort them together and to see where which trail was leading.
About one week before I went on holiday, I was almost done. I just needed the admin to track some IP-adresses down to the location they belong to for the final clues. I left without getting it, and now I am back for a few days and still didn't receive a thing.
Too bad, well then just do it this way.
The Outcome
These are the usernames I asked for:
Jingle96, Frilla, Tyco, Stander, Entitie, Tcp, Uk, Menazuuo, Ffecnte, Guak, Nonton4, Imperial, Wesson45, Animal311, Jigiman, Noxus, Shackles, Kamekaze6, Runehq, Berttone, Picky, Windtalker, Macdonnalds, Ningterc, Saratje, Butcher, Messiah, Wambat11, Waikiki, Eratifig
I got a list of IP-adresses, and this is what is our proof:
Members of -TO-
On Connor:
- 83.117.222.73 is Connor
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty
( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
On Spyder:
- 58.84.127.239 , 58.84.86.1 , 58.84.110.97 , 58.84.125.201 , 58.84.122.162 , 58.84.122.81 , 58.84.95.82 , 58.84.106.174 , 58.84.85.222 , 58.84.93.108 , 58.84.90.40 , 58.84.125.90 , 58.84.109.136 , 58.84.81.240 , 58.84.92.172 , 58.84.106.244 , 58.84.120.125 , 58.84.109.244 are from Spyder himself. This 58 is typical for an Australian adress so these are from Spyder.
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
On Achilles:
- 67.53.187.208 , 67.53.158.14 , 65.30.221.166 , 66.222.64.217 , 70.217.102.208 , 67.53.158.109 are from Achilles himself.( Location needed )
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 207.250.40.21 is unknown.. ( Location needed )
On Chris:
- 86.52.35.110 from Chris en Sola. They live together so that explains enough.
- 83.90.100.46 is from Chris his work.
- 69.198.135.244 is unknown. It is also found on: Shadow of Smoke, Jigiman, Mighty, ducky, Corleone ( Location needed)
- 86.52.105.62 is from Chris
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
On Sola:
- 86.52.35.110 from Chris en Sola. They live together so that explains enough.
On Shackles:
- 194.204.108.16 , 194.204.127.207 , 194.204.127.109 , 194.204.108.22 , 194.204.114.121 , 194.204.114.243 , 194.204.127.170 , 195.158.122.200 , 194.204.108.102 , 194.204.114.146 , 194.204.127.80 , 194.204.114.152 , 194.204.127.219 , 194.204.114.235. These are from Malta
- 212.56.128.21 is unknown ( Location needed)
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
Members from PFIU
---- Moses his accounts are I AM THE ONE and Lil Shadey
IP's on I AM THE ONE: 66.38.192.219 , 66.38.192.134 , 69.196.161.38 , 64.12.117.13 , 152.163.101.13 , 205.188.116.71
IP's on Lil Shadey: 64.12.117.13 , 205.188.116.71 , 152.163.101.13 , 152.163.100.70
- 64.12.117.13 is on both
- 205.188.116.71 is on both.
- 152.163.101.13is on both.
- 152.163.100.70 is on Lil Shadey.
- 66.38.192.219 is on Sacharia, Tramp en I AM THE ONE. ( Location needed )
- 66.38.192.134 is on I AM THE ONE en Tramp. ( Location needed)
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 64.12.117.13 is on both.
---- T2 his accounts are Tramp en Sacharia.
IP's on Tramp: 209.71.221.224 , 69.196.161.38 , 209.71.221.151 , 64.6.202.226 , 66.38.192.134 , 209.71.221.197 , 209.71.221.240 , 216.106.106.129 , 66.38.192.219 , 209.71.221.77 , 64.6.202.217 , 209.71.221.170 , 216.106.106.181 , 209.71.221.202 , 216.106.106.154 , 209.71.221.66 , 209.71.221.88
IP's on Sacharia: 66.38.192.219 , 209.71.221.224
- 66.38.192.219 is on Tramp, Sacharia en I AM THE ONE. ( Locatie )
- 209.71.221.224 is on both.
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 66.38.192.134 is on Tramp en I AM THE ONE.
- The others are just on Tramp.
---- Talking Cow and waikiki
IP's on Talking Cow: 69.196.161.38 , 80.61.218.7 , 193.242.117.18 , 217.121.206.134
IP's on waikiki: 217.121.206.134
- 217.121.206.134 is on both. They are the same player. But Talking cow is inactive so we can conclude he started a new account.
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- The others are just on Talking cow.
---- Istefa.
His IP's: 69.196.161.38 , 169.204.52.48 , 207.200.116.138 , 169.204.52.50
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- The others are just found on Istefa.
---- Evans:
His IP's: 88.106.64.49 , 88.106.69.44
Both are only found on him, so no problems here.
---- Blade Edge:
His IP's: 64.149.235 . 242,75.6.38.158 , 69.196.161.38 , 71.137.228.10 , 75.5.29.221 , 75.11.98.151, 71.137.228.42 , 75.0.104.41 , 71.137.227.19 , 71.131.151.112 , 71.147.0.226 , 75.0.105.88 , 71.143.151.88 , 70.37.151.109 , 71.156.73.86 , 71.119.194.30 , 163.150.137.68
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 163.150.137.68 is found on Blade Edge and Jack O' Shadow. ( Location needed )
- The others were just found on Blade Edge.
--- Jack O' Shadow:
His IP's: 63.43.22.99 , 69.196.161.38 , 163.150.137.68
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 163.150.137.68 is found on Blade Edge and Jack O' Shadow. ( Location needed )
- 63.43.22.99 is just found on Jack O' Shadow
---- Jigiman
His IP's: 69.198.135.244 , 74.56.242.74 , 69.196.161.38
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 69.198.135.244 is also found on: Mighty, Shadow of the smoke, ducky, Chris and Corleone
- 74.56.242.74 is found on Jigiman and Mighty.
--- Corleone.
His IP's are: 69.198.135.244 , 66.215.128.170 , 24.182.49.227 , 66.224.113.254 , 64.149.157.11 , 69.109.5.236 , 70.142.21.46 , 69.109.8.214
- 69.198.135.244 is also found on: Mighty, Shadow of the smoke, ducky, Chris and Jigiman.
- All others were only found on Corleone.
--- Shroud
berttone The Shroud The Fog en 1151467609NAV http:// Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; yplus 4.1.00b) 5797 70.128.47.123 , 69.152.44.49 , 69.196.161.38 , 70.248.66.222 , 70.252.86.111 , 70.247.72.185 , 69.154.61.125 , 70.233.102.163 , 69.155.12.136 , 70.252.87.185 , 69.153.226.223 , 162.39.128.161 , 69.155.123.164 , 70.128.59.40 , 70.252.92.40 , 70.249.187.43 , 69.151.127.232 , 70.128.58.224
- 69.196.161.38 is found on Shroud and Mighty.
- The rest is just found on Shroud.
--- Shadow of the smoke
frilla A Shadow the Smoke en 1151474473NAV http:// Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) 3597 71.124.41.20 , 71.124.104.7 , 72.69.112.252 , 71.124.120.44 , 71.124.36.240, 69.198.135.244 , 71.124.122.55 , 71.124.117.37 , 71.124.119.157 , 71.124.33.137 , 71.124.117.188 , 71.124.119.28 , 71.124.115.146 , 69.196.161.38 , 71.124.45.224 , 71.124.38.50 , 71.124.118.171 , 71.124.111.215
- 71.124.104.7 , 72.69.112.252 , 71.124.120.44 , 71.124.122.55 , 71.124.117.37 , 71.124.118.171 , 71.124.111.215 were found on Shadow of the smoke.
- 69.198.135.244 was found on Shadow, Guak69, Jigiman, Mighty, ducky and Shade. (Location needed.)
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty.
- The rest is found on Shadow and Scolar.
--- Scolar
noxus Scolar Visari Helghast Empire en 1151479801NAV Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) 14814 71.124.41.20 , 71.124.36.240 , 71.124.127.179 , 71.124.123.146 , 71.124.126.101 , 69.196.161.38 , 71.124.119.157 , 71.124.33.137 , 71.124.117.188 , 71.124.119.28 , 71.124.115.146 , 72.69.110.12 , 71.124.45.224 , 71.124.38.50 , 71.124.104.136 , 71.124.33.124 , 71.124.124.236 , 71.124.40.18
- 71.124.36.240 , 71.124.127.179 , 71.124.123.146 , 71.124.126.101 , 71.124.115.146 , 72.69.110.12 , 71.124.104.136 , 71.124.33.124 , 71.124.124.236 , 71.124.40.18 were just found on Scolar.
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty.
- The rest is found on Scolar and Shroud.
---- Ducky
His IP's: 69.198.135.244 , 69.196.161.38
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 69.198.135.244 is also found on: Mighty, Shadow of the smoke, Corleone, Chris and Jigiman.
--- Mighty himself.
His IP's: 69.198.135.244 , 74.56.242.74 , 69.196.161.38
- 69.196.161.38 is from Mighty ( gw03.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com )
- 69.198.135.244 is also found on: ducky, Shadow of the smoke, Corleone, Chris and Jigiman.
- 74.56.242.74 is just found on Mighty and Jigiman.
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Accusation
This Canadian guy seems not to be T2 or Moses, so that leaves one suspect: Mighty.
Our so-called God seems to have logged on to six accounts of Total Ownage, he had access to all PFIU members and probably seems to be the owner of the guak-multie accounts.
We aren't fully done yet. We have proof here that Moses and T2 have shared accounts, and we want to know which of those two accessed the account of the other.
Finally we can also state that the accounts of Shadow of the smoke and Scolar have had the same IP's. Are these an old and a new one (And both logged on at the same day as happened during that loophole switching or is there real multing going on?
Too bad our Mighty left the game for a while so he can't be called forward to confirm his name is Roger. But the IP was traced this close from Dusseldorf, through New York and Toronto right into Canada.
This can be seen as clear evidence of cheating. And then we haven't even mentioned that so called tactic of loopholes. However constantly called a tactic from the side of PFIU, if an admin says it is considered cheating, it simply is.
Thus we have the vast majority of PFIU accused of multing or helping others to multi by offering their password. _________________ Nulla poena sine lege..
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M107 Ensign
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 8 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I used to be Istefa when I was a noob. Mighty got me into PFIU cause I didn't know any better. I did notice though that my account had been hacked when my attack codes changed over, my fleets changed courses, and other stuff like that.
So with the whole IP's, when it comes up as some canadian guys IP under mine, wouldn't that mean (if mighty is roger) he really did hack my account along with the others? |
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promethius2 Admiral
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 1842 Location: Éire
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Oh my!
It would seem that the Jury might see a bit of action in the coming weeks.
Someone get me a towel and a pair of gloves... _________________ Calvin: I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin: Nobody thinks I'm a genius. |
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Scipio Africanus 1st Rear Admiral
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T2 Admiral
Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1398 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Well...I'll freely admit, I created the account for Moses in forum and I think I did some personal changes to the way his game works however, I did not ever see the fleets or made any movements, research or probe scans. It was purely giving aid to someone who was having problems.
I am sure Moses will validate my claim and can probably even provide details on why he was having problems And it was administrative problems, not combat or tactical.
I shall wait to see what Moses will actually post and then plan what course of action i shall take. |
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Star Commander Admiral
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 1734 Location: Bolton
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Well at least i havent been accused for hacking like i normally am
Greetz, Evans. _________________ APEmpire |
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Knight of Truth Admiral
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 2011
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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if i understand correctly, you are saying Mighty had acces to all our acounts? even to my new one? and what about our code being scrambled? and youre saying i told mighty my password? and that more than one person hacked my acount? and we knew your attack code? the funny thing is, we suspectyed you of hacking our acountd as well (im not accusing anyone) I did not tell mighty my password. I did get banned from UFOP just now, but i did not receive the message. I do have it in my message history though. This is really really weird... _________________ [img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/599/kot2ks1.jpg[/img]
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For fuck's sake would you both please stop fucking swearing!!!! |
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Moses 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Rob you are an ass and always will be in my book.First T2 is a trusted friend not like you so i see no reason the administration gave you my ip address that went against there rules i agreed to when i started,if and i say if there was a problem the should have handled it,not give to a past multi playerlike you. NOW T2 did enter my account on 2 occasions and since your so close to the adm. you can have them check it out,once was to set up y forum account for me and the other to set up irc account, that could be verified time and date wise.Iam not and never have been a multi or hacker,As far as I was aware of no played any part of my games,I have suspected a couple of times like you said my message not up when i logged on and i thought my ships were moved once, that was when mighty told me to reset my evo was 98% he was our leader and i thought it was for some place to put the flag,now shade accused me of deleting because i was negative in score thatsa not so either because when i reset i was 8th out of top ten with 30000+points.In retrospect I sure hope your leaving the game for good I promise you if you stay it will not be fun for you,the last 2 times T2 save your ass from me this time I wont leave you alone.Have a nice day MR Dick-head, remember that. |
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T2 Admiral
Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1398 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Moses for your verification. You also raise a good point.
I also suspected my account of being "pilfered " with.
I now have 2 suspects instead of 3 .
As you Rob have posted my log-in name...guess what...Only Mighty and You are now suspects.
This troubles me immensly that 2 people have been fooling with my 'puter/ account.
Info went to -TO- that had no way to get there except via log in to other accounts.
As I am certain Mighty entered my account, I am also certain he did not pass over info to you.
I also see many Ip addresses for my log in however I only log in from my home 'puter.
Tell me where all those other IP addresses came from in my listing. If it sounds believable and I can validate, fine...if not I'll go back to my original accusation that there was a 3rd hand in the hacking scam and I point the finger to you. I do not think Shade did it however he may have put you up to it. |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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1 I didn't accuse the both of you for multing or hacking. The two of you shared accounts.
You both admitted it. For whatever reason it happened, you both are guilty of breaking the rules. And don't come with lies of setting up forum accounts. How in hell do you need your ingame account for setting up a forum account?
2Posting login name. Please log in to your spacetrace account, go to your comlist and hold your mouse cursor over one of the people. With Safari I can see a link of the site I will go to if I click. If I hold it on somebody's name I will see this: http ://www. spacetrace.org/com_player.php?bg=&touser=(here you can see the login name.)
3I told you all the IP's that had entered your account at the time I requested the IP's they were all either just on you, or on you and Moses or on you and some other PFIU guy.
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To me, the two of you have really lowered yourselves to the most incredibly stupid level I've ever seen. Contact admin and hear that we both agreed this was the only good and convincing way to clear the problem.
The admin gives out the data, which is given to the hands of a trustworthy player. If the data would've been altered or changed in any way, the admin can check on it with ease.
The data is simply not something you can just put aside and come with some b u l l s h i t story again. Do yo see my IP adress coming on the lists of IP's that accessed yours? I don't.
Check for yourself. Mine is: 192.168.123.165.
PS: Moses don't come with lame remarks as you've been a multi yourself. Fact is that I was and I am not ashamed of it. Another fact is you are the one that was sharing accounts just two months ago and that you are the defendend right here.
Why do you think I was the one that got the info from admin? Cause my side was the victim here. We were hacked, the enemie was cheating just for a damned game. Chris was quite busy so he asked me to sort out the data and come with an accusation that would hold ground. _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Vrictus Admiral
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: |
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hmmm
im afraid Rob you have no point there
im impressed with the way you have caught mighty, good job
but
Admin has no right to give out our IP addresses or anything, its a breach of privacy.
im not saying you would hack/virus/spam our IPs
but Admin have in turn breached a rule themselves
i did not come up on that list, in fact...I cant appear on any IP list
but you must understand, Admin cannot do that
so i ask all players to NOT report this, as it is minor....
but please can this not be done again
however, i think you have enough proof that mighty is responsible
and congratulate you on this |
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Rubens Admiral
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: |
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the admin has the right of the doubt. So if he wants he can checks ip's, thats why he is an admin. Its his game and the IP is not private. You can make a site, you join it i see your is tha tsimple through.
If ST could have more admins or GM we could have a team that could check constatly IPs which will prevent more hack/shared account, you see the admin just do the right thing to discover a suspected multi. If none of this IPs would be found in the PCs there wouldnt a multi-problem. Greetings |
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promethius2 Admiral
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 1842 Location: Éire
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Vrictus wrote: | hmmm
im afraid Rob you have no point there
im impressed with the way you have caught mighty, good job
but
Admin has no right to give out our IP addresses or anything, its a breach of privacy.
im not saying you would hack/virus/spam our IPs
but Admin have in turn breached a rule themselves
i did not come up on that list, in fact...I cant appear on any IP list
but you must understand, Admin cannot do that
so i ask all players to NOT report this, as it is minor....
but please can this not be done again
however, i think you have enough proof that mighty is responsible
and congratulate you on this |
IP's can be found out with or without the admins permission. I beleive there are many programs out there that scans IP's.
I think this is great and should be kept up. If we constantly had scans going the multi problem of spacetrace might actually be completely eradicated. _________________ Calvin: I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
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Knight of Truth Admiral
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 2011
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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correct me if im wrong, but didnt you say t was ''some canadian guy'' so it doesnt neccesarily mean its mighty. _________________ [img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/599/kot2ks1.jpg[/img]
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T2 Admiral
Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1398 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Rob...I hope your mother does not let you play with sharp objects for your own good. |
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Vrictus Admiral
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 662
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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if the IP is free view
then i take what i said back
sorry guys |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Knight of Truth wrote: | correct me if im wrong, but didnt you say t was ''some canadian guy'' so it doesnt neccesarily mean its mighty. |
That is how I called it first. But afterwards we tracked it to his home. Like every normal person would expect, it was Mighty. _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Vrictus Admiral
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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will be interesting to see if he responds to this
or if he ever comes back |
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promethius2 Admiral
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 1842 Location: Éire
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I can understand why people multi once.
But seriously, why would you hack other people's accounts and multi continously in the name of a game? _________________ Calvin: I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
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T2 Admiral
Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1398 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well...I'm trying to figure out the IP stuff and I want to know who Sacharia is.
It is a handle I do not recognise.
Please explain this entry someone......
---- T2 his accounts are Tramp en Sacharia.
IP's on Tramp: 209.71.221.224 , 69.196.161.38 , 209.71.221.151 , 64.6.202.226 , 66.38.192.134 , 209.71.221.197 , 209.71.221.240 , 216.106.106.129 , 66.38.192.219 , 209.71.221.77 , 64.6.202.217 , 209.71.221.170 , 216.106.106.181 , 209.71.221.202 , 216.106.106.154 , 209.71.221.66 , 209.71.221.88
IP's on Sacharia: 66.38.192.219 , 209.71.221.224
Who is Sacharia ??????? |
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