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Conglomera
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:18 pm    Post subject:
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And what about if someone creates 10 diferent accounts and send 30.000 ships to defend his main planet or attack others?
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:29 pm    Post subject:
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We've had such players in the past.
Eventually they get noted and might be removed from the game.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:31 pm    Post subject:
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I think there's no absolute counter against this...
1- a cookie? could be deleted or switching computers, and what if someone else is using the same computer to play?
2- IP-Check? could switch provider, spoofing, tuneling... Dynamic IP... Using public computers in cybercafé, again what about if someone else is using the same computer to play?
3- E-mail check... no joke...

I think the idea is to limit the number of fleets in the same sector to 6, and to limit the number of manpower totalized by 1st, 2nd and 3rd class ships in each fleet to 1250.

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[ This Message was edited by: Conglomera on 2002-10-29 20:41 ]
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:34 pm    Post subject:
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On 2002-10-29 20:29, Frederik wrote:
We've had such players in the past.
Eventually they get noted and might be removed from the game.


Seriously this way you're doing ghostbusting... (Hunting Ghosts)... tracking cheaters and removing them, how hard and long could be that task... seriously you should switch to a more definitive solution.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:38 pm    Post subject:
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I think the idea is to limit the number of fleets in the same sector to 6, and to limit the number of manpower totalized by 1st, 2nd and 3rd class ships in each fleet to 1250.


Precisions :

Amongst the 6 fleets presents in the same sector... 3 only can be friendly.
i.e : 3 fleets sharing the same code or set to attack or bellonging to the same ruller and the 3 other fleets must be set to defend or sharing an other same code or belonging to an other same ruller.

If the Fleet A is set to attack or has a code enter a sector containing Fleet B, Fleet C and Fleet D which are set to deffend, the player to whom bellongs Fleet A can't change its attitude to defend because there's already 3 friendly fleets in the sector, he's forced to fight or leave the area.

If a fleet try to stop its course in a saturated sector, it must wait one node away until a place is free... a message should be sent to its leader :

- can't stop at sector xxx/xxx/xxx reason : sector is saturated, waiting for free place
or
- can't stop at sector xxx/xxx/xxx reason :
maximum amount of friendly fleets reached, change your attitude or wait for free place.


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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:29 pm    Post subject:
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Idea is Ok. But what about hit and run?
3 fleets can attack and move off and the next 3 fleets do the same round the clock? It only make the attackers and defenders more work but the final results are the same.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:38 pm    Post subject:
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What is the problem with creating other accounts and sending them to defend your home?
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:37 am    Post subject:
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multiple accounts are not tolerated!

it is against the rules and it is not fair.
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:04 am    Post subject:
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How about using second account to test out the new ships? Since your simulator is not ready.
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:31 am    Post subject:
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Let me put it this way

it is hard to catch who ever is multying but they will get busted sometime

and who ever is multying rather cares about the game!! and we kcik multy's out.

so if you wanna get kicked out you can try multying!!


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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:53 am    Post subject:
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Oh well I've finaly understand the meaning of this game : build multiple accounts and crush them... Sorry friends to tell you this, but you certainly spent so much hours (months) to make a cool game, lot of thinking, lot of rules, lot of features, technology and all... the all explained in a huge manual... But hey, why bothering trying diferent strategies spending hours studying the techtree to see which tactic could be best fitted, or combining ships to have a succesfull fleet... Tell me why bothering doing this? spending 15 hours a day playing... thinking... when you know that almost everyone is multi-accounting... and even if you got the ultimate fleet supported by the ultimate point of developement, you will be simply crushed by a player who didn't give a damn to strategy and honour... yes a player with no style that will crush you like a vulgar insect using a fleet of 45.000 vulgar starting vessels...
Thanx God I'm only playing since 3 days (16 hours a day) it was fun and inovative... but sorry, I'll no more play because of the desilusion about this game that deceived me a lot after discovering the "succesfull formula" which is still a "Taboo" but practiced by I guess more than 75% of players.
You know my e-mail... then if you want so, and if you have enough respect for me... tell me when this game has ben fixed so then I will reconcider my opinion.

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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:28 am    Post subject:
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I know what you mean Conglomera,
I've just been attacked by 5 accounts that always seem to be played sequentially and which use exactly the same fleet setup. (And all fleets do the same moves).
But because there is a war going on, nobody want's to believe this is a multi and even start blaming me for bringing this up.

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I think you have a very good point that multi's should be discouraged by adding certain rules in the game and your suggestion is a good step in that direction.

This topic seems indeed still taboo, but as the problem grows I hope countermeasures will be taken.
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:40 am    Post subject:
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Conglomera , dont be discouraged, there are never that many multis, they are usually spotted pretty quickly. Keep playing and if you have trouble with an alliance call on the Space Mercenaries for help.(We are a little busy at present) but are always happy to help new players get a hang of it.
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 11:31 am    Post subject:
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the using of multies is the same game like using doping in sports...

everyone watches out for it and all those who are successful are under special watch...
so you can continue playing the game the interference of multiaccounts is rather small... most of the players are honest and dont tolerate multies... the others are either not successful or banned...

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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:35 pm    Post subject:
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But hey, why bothering trying diferent strategies spending hours studying the techtree to see which tactic could be best fitted, or combining ships to have a succesfull fleet... Tell me why bothering doing this?


The experiences I made is that developing tactics is much more fun than cheating. I seldomly destroy a building because you don't get enough points compared to the mp as when you sucessfully attack a fleet. And I don't know any sucessful player who cheats...
btw: I don't want to say I cheated... :wink:

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 Post Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject:
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i agree with u all. multying is not fun and is unfair. this is a strategy game and should be played as one. =)
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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 2:09 pm    Post subject:
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453/499/31
lemming of lemminglopolis

I have a feeling that Brask is a multy, because he is attacking this planet and the planet has 16 motherships
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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 2:41 pm    Post subject:

hmm...that seems suspicious. lol we can ruin his plans be attacking that planet and getting all those points for ourselves. j/k =)
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