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| Jack09 wrote: | | Renee your are really stupid, |
i'd sure love to see the br from that comment
and the more times you read that comment the funnier it becomes.
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NEWS FLASH:
After getting Clint to get MSN Messenger we had a long talk about this multi crap...
1. he stated he knows about proxy servers as he uses them to play games at school (he's 15)
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teh only reason i would use a proxy is to bypass security at school bad but it works |
2. He also has a webcam - so I asked to put the accusations to a final rest to put on the cam for no more the 2 minutes and let me see everyone to vouch that they were legit... he refused...
He was highly upset about being called a multi but didn't seem to want to make the accusations drop dead...
- if it upset so bad about being called a multi and you had an opportunity to prove everyone wrong - wouldn't you do so???
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| Durago wrote: | | Jack09 wrote: | | Renee your are really stupid, |
i'd sure love to see the br from that comment
and the more times you read that comment the funnier it becomes.
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TIME OF DEATH
[08:46] spacebot: Aeon7 of Shivering Isles entered spacetrace
[08:48] spacebot: Cord of Tycho Crater entered spacetrace
[08:48] spacebot: Dauphin Luke of Versailles entered spacetrace
[08:49] spacebot: Clint of Menzoberranzan entered spacetrace
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mmmhhh..... that makes me unhappy! i hoped for new players!  |
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| zaphod wrote: | | mmmhhh..... that makes me unhappy! i hoped for new players! |
Yea...me too.... 
Note to Jack 09 :
There is no better species or race in ST. All the different races use slightly different primary applications of their ships but the ability to "cross tech" with some other species allows balance within the different species or races.
FWIW, there is a battle simulator that you can go to and try out any combination of ships...both attacker and defender and see the results of the battle. I can't give you the co-ords right off but if you search through the forum, you should find it easy enough.
If you point farm your other accounts, real players will get pi$$ed at at you and then they will not allow you to make any headway because they will keep your bases flat and you won't be able to earn a point or counter attack.
There is no way to someone inexperienced with the battle engine of ST can "overwhelm" an experienced team even with superior numbers. You will become a point bank for other players.
There is no sense in even trying to convince the ST community as a whole that you are 4 different people. They will watch your every move and also run IP scans. It will take some extremely strong evidence to convince them otherwise.
If your just wanting to fool around and explore the game, thats fine as well but just use 1 account. Drop by the battle simulator, try a battle at one of the score planets like the Black Hole at 500-500-50. If you can hold the Black hole for any length of time, it gives back points every 24 hrs you hold it.
You see...there are a bunch of options available to a new player so multiple accounts are not needed. It wonèt make you learn any faster and it will just discredit you in the eyes of the whole ST community.
ST is a great game not dependent on the longer you play, the more power you have nor is it dependent on he who pushes the keypad the most wins. You can play occasionally but to be a real points contender, you have to be on very regular (every 3-4 hrs). |
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| Ya its fun but when we start and all of us get accusations about being a multi that ruins everything, so if you want people to join your game you would have to be more open minded, and the things i got quoted on about proxies, its funny cause they only put in part of what i said and not the whole thing so the evidence against be is being manipulated to make me look like a multi instead of four people just playing a game. |
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Can you then post everything? Whole messages etc? Cause so far what I have heard from dragonlilly makes sence, even taking into conciderence of you saying that she twisted things around. Cause atleast half of her proof she gave me are facts.
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| Jack09 wrote: | | Ya its fun but when we start and all of us get accusations about being a multi that ruins everything, so if you want people to join your game you would have to be more open minded, and the things i got quoted on about proxies, its funny cause they only put in part of what i said and not the whole thing so the evidence against be is being manipulated to make me look like a multi instead of four people just playing a game. |
OHHHH!! so you want the whole convo... well here you go...
in date, time, from and to context...
12/30/2008 1:10:28 AM Clint Lilly KK my cousin is getting on and were all transfering to his alliance so we can be together so give me a sec but ill keep wrking on that logmein shit
12/30/2008 1:10:56 AM You have invited Clint to start sending webcam. Please wait for a response or Cancel (Alt+Q) the pending invitation.
12/30/2008 1:11:07 AM You have invited Clint to start viewing webcam. Please wait for a response or Cancel (Alt+Q) the pending invitation.
12/30/2008 1:11:55 AM Lilly Clint I have made a invite to start sharing cams
12/30/2008 1:12:20 AM Clint Lilly ?
12/30/2008 1:12:29 AM Lilly Clint it says you have a webcam
12/30/2008 1:13:33 AM Clint Lilly YA but you can look at me on
Myspace i dont want a stalker> 
12/30/2008 1:14:05 AM Lilly Clint haha I just thought if I could see the 4 of you on webcam together for a breif moment I could vouch that your all different peoples
12/30/2008 1:14:54 AM Lilly Clint and besides I'm dating brian so I wouldn't be interested and also ur under age lol
12/30/2008 1:15:28 AM You have canceled your invitation to start sending webcam.
12/30/2008 1:15:29 AM You have canceled your invitation to start viewing webcam.
12/30/2008 1:16:37 AM Lilly Clint it would be just for 2 minutes max then never again
12/30/2008 1:17:03 AM Clint Lilly Good dont want some 100 year old lady trying to get my number
12/30/2008 1:17:27 AM Lilly Clint haha I'm 26 soon to be 27 = I'm not old 
12/30/2008 1:17:59 AM Lilly Clint if you can ralley the troops up that would fantastico... we could put this multi accusations thing to rest for GOOD
12/30/2008 1:18:30 AM Lilly Clint and I think you all would like that
12/30/2008 1:20:14 AM Clint Lilly well they are leavin gtommorow so we can all get on but not all of us have a MSN especially me with my fucked up computer cord does probably luke cause their twins an can live together but only th elap top has a MSN an di need my computer fixed to get my account running
12/30/2008 1:21:35 AM Lilly Clint well let me see you all on cam before they leave... I promise that if you all do this the accusations will be considered DEAD as I personally will vouch for you
12/30/2008 1:22:22 AM Lilly Clint there won't be no more skeptics in the least
12/30/2008 1:24:58 AM Clint Lilly KINDA WIERD IF YOU ASKING ME WERE $ DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEY DONT WANT DO IT EITHER AND I NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A COVER UP BUT ITS NOT LOOK US ON MYSPACE JUST TYPE IN SHELBY VICK SHE IS AT THE BOTTOM SHOULD SAY TAFT WERE WE LIVE AND THAT PICTURE IS US
12/30/2008 1:28:33 AM Lilly Clint well then the accusations will always be there ... you all had the chance to prove 100% that what you say is true... for some reason... I do believe I have just caught you in a lie... I don't want to see pictures... as they don't prove the present situation... I just want to see all 4 of you on the cam together live for 2 minutes max... I know if I was in your shoes and had everyone at my house...
12/30/2008 1:29:01 AM Lilly Clint and really wanted to prove this then I would be more then willing to do so just to Kill off any skepticism there might be
12/30/2008 1:32:26 AM Clint Lilly look i dont mind it but its not my computer i dont know how many times ive tried to tell you but thats all i can do if you dont believe that thosse pictures are true i dont know what to say we are four different people trying to play a game were people blame everybody of being a multi because they were on the same computer for threee days zaphod a vet doesnt have a problem with it so why should
12/30/2008 1:32:32 AM Clint Lilly you have a problem
12/30/2008 1:34:10 AM Lilly Clint I am skeptical... and just want 100% proof that ur not... I want to believe but I don't believe without facts... and I would also like to kill off any further problems this might stem from other ST members... your only hurting urselves by not doing this
12/30/2008 1:34:38 AM Lilly Clint and yes I understand that this isn't your computer but it won't harm anything for 2 minutes trust me
12/30/2008 1:35:06 AM Clint Lilly its a game, im Clint Vick my cousins are twins Lucas Willis and Cord Willis and my three sisters are Tera Courtney and Shelby
12/30/2008 1:35:59 AM Lilly Clint yes thats what you say... now how do I know for sure that they are playing these accounts you claim to be theirs
12/30/2008 1:36:20 AM Lilly Clint how do I know that your cousins are really at your house
12/30/2008 1:36:38 AM Lilly Clint how do I know that there is really 4 different people at your house playing ST
12/30/2008 1:36:49 AM Clint Lilly do you want to come to my house and look for yourself by all means all give youthe addreess and you can come
12/30/2008 1:37:00 AM Lilly Clint I don't so therefore I can't believe 100% that ur being truthful
12/30/2008 1:37:13 AM Lilly Clint just cam it for 2 minutes that is soooo easy
12/30/2008 1:37:30 AM Clint Lilly how about a picture then send it to you
12/30/2008 1:37:44 AM Lilly Clint no I want to see live
12/30/2008 1:37:54 AM Lilly Clint a picture doesn't show present times
12/30/2008 1:38:12 AM Clint Lilly uh no its creepy and they all say that
they dont want to
12/30/2008 1:38:34 AM Lilly Clint you can claim that the picture was just taken meanwhile it could've been from days weeks months ago
12/30/2008 1:38:50 AM Clint Lilly for all we know you could be michael jackson talking to us, and how do i know that your not a multi
12/30/2008 1:39:01 AM Lilly Clint I know its creepy but if you got something to prove then prove it
12/30/2008 1:39:09 AM Lilly Clint because I despise cheating
12/30/2008 1:39:24 AM Lilly Clint never cheated ever in my life in any online game
12/30/2008 1:39:51 AM Lilly Clint I used to be a moderator and search for multies in an other game I used to play
12/30/2008 1:40:06 AM Clint Lilly and so do i so does that make you not a multi how do i know that you dont have four computers that have MSN and were talking brian and ed and your alliance is just u
12/30/2008 1:40:44 AM Lilly Clint thats fine - you see how the truth can be twisted w/o facts
12/30/2008 1:41:23 AM Lilly Clint problem is you've already told people that you shared a computer and had each other passwords... and not to mention the back to back logins... very suspisious
12/30/2008 1:41:36 AM Lilly Clint so the facts are stacked against you mate...
12/30/2008 1:42:54 AM Clint Lilly ya ok so we now eachothers passwords, .how about i give youmine you log in and i call you a multi and throw shit in your face for days, and iim sure you now since your a multi that when you open a new tab in firefox that you have to log in agian
12/30/2008 1:42:55 AM Lilly Clint by the way - for your info... there was several times tonight that brian, ed and I were all typing at the same time... kinda hard to control 3 keyboards at once
12/30/2008 1:43:50 AM Lilly Clint ST would laugh at you mate if you called me a multi
12/30/2008 1:44:05 AM Clint Lilly and we all sent Alpha a message at teh exact same time on four different computers so how do ou call me a multi
12/30/2008 1:44:40 AM Lilly Clint well Alpha didn't see dauphin showing online status and do know that some proxy servers will change some minor settings such as this
12/30/2008 1:44:53 AM Clint Lilly and how do i know that your friends werrnt just sitting next to you and they just typed for you, and made accounts for you to use
12/30/2008 1:45:03 AM Lilly Clint you could've proxied all 4 accounts on the same computer different tabs
12/30/2008 1:45:20 AM Clint Lilly teh only reason i would use a proxy is to bypass security at school bad but it works
12/30/2008 1:45:26 AM Lilly Clint if you would've asked I'd be willing to show you the came
12/30/2008 1:45:42 AM Lilly Clint ahhh so you know about proxies then
12/30/2008 1:45:56 AM Lilly Clint keep on diggin mate
12/30/2008 1:46:17 AM Clint Lilly and dauohin wasnt showing cause my computer is infected and it is fuckin gup that is why i asked you for help\
12/30/2008 1:46:27 AM Lilly Clint most 15 year old don't even know what a proxy is
12/30/2008 1:46:42 AM Clint Lilly and yes i know about proxies but i dont even now everything they do
12/30/2008 1:47:09 AM Clint Lilly and i swear to you that every single kid in my school all thousand of em now what a proxy is
12/30/2008 1:47:13 AM Lilly Clint still you know enough of how to bypass security stuff
12/30/2008 1:47:22 AM Lilly Clint thats enough to run 3 other accounts from
12/30/2008 1:48:03 AM Lilly Clint you all type in the same exact context and even misspelled the same words in your messages to me
12/30/2008 1:48:40 AM Clint Lilly and they nwo more than me about tham, and i don tknow what a proxy does except ot bypass security to play games, the one i use is called ihatepeaches.com and all it says is to type in address to go somewhere
12/30/2008 1:48:52 AM Lilly Clint I used to hunt multies - I think I know what to look for
12/30/2008 1:49:26 AM Lilly sent the wink "Gotta Pee! BRB..."
12/30/2008 1:51:45 AM Lilly Clint back
12/30/2008 1:54:10 AM Clint Lilly ya but like you said its kinda of hard to control 4 keyboards at once and since you know how to hunt multies you should now that im not one and we didnt spell the words wrong so im sorry but im leaving
12/30/2008 1:55:54 AM Clint Lilly we didnt think spacetrace would be this technical so i guess its not what we searching, this technical and so much people thinking we were multis so i guess this is not that multiplayer online spacetrace
12/30/2008 1:57:02 AM Lilly Clint oh it is... but we just don't like multies... you have a chance to prove right now to me and the community that your not multies but refuse to do so
12/30/2008 1:57:29 AM Lilly Clint ST is a great game and trust me it would be much more welcoming if the facts didn't point to you all being a multi
12/30/2008 1:59:19 AM Clint Lilly im fucking serious im not a multi you have too much stuff going on in your head and think to much about one thing and of all the possibilities and it just isnt right sometimes, sorry
12/30/2008 1:59:51 AM Lilly Clint well were is the proof that ur not ...
12/30/2008 2:00:54 AM Lilly Clint all the circumstancial evidence proves it to be differently
12/30/2008 2:03:40 AM Lilly Clint there is too many things that point to being a multi
12/30/2008 2:04:00 AM Lilly Clint you have an opprunity to flip that all around
12/30/2008 2:04:03 AM Lilly Clint and your not
12/30/2008 2:05:30 AM Clint Lilly GET OVER IT GET OVER IT THIS IS NOT THE GAME WE THOUGHT IT WAS ST FAILED FAILED FAILED FAILED
12/30/2008 2:06:16 AM Lilly Clint fine then leave... that is your choice... you had a chance to prove us all differently
12/30/2008 2:07:21 AM Lilly Clint I know the players of ST pretty well as it is a very tight knit community... and I know the players and myself would chance their tunes around if the accusations could be proven differently
12/30/2008 2:07:35 AM Lilly Clint you would have soooo much help you wouldn't know what to do with it all
12/30/2008 2:08:12 AM Lilly Clint and you all would be welcomed with open arms... but again... the choice is yours
12/30/2008 2:09:18 AM Lilly Clint even if we're enemies ingame - we're friends outside of game and everyone talks to one another...
12/30/2008 2:09:39 AM Clint Lilly i tried but you guys brought up everything that anybody could ever fucking thinking of and threw it against me im 15 and your saying im using proxies to hack in and send 4 messages at once so its not what i thoguht if you wan to believe that im multi go ahead but im not so its not life or death and im not any of yor clans friends sorry but you gottta go
12/30/2008 2:10:21 AM Lilly Clint I gotta go???
12/30/2008 2:12:25 AM Lilly Clint is that a threat?
12/30/2008 2:14:31 AM Clint Lilly im 15 and you scare me im going
12/30/2008 2:15:06 AM Lilly Clint rofl I scare you...
12/30/2008 2:15:19 AM Lilly Clint I'm the biggest bitch in ST I should scare you
12/30/2008 2:16:06 AM Lilly Clint all I asked for is for you to prove once and for all a full proof way of you not being a multi
12/30/2008 2:16:17 AM Lilly Clint I have NO interest in anything else
12/30/2008 2:16:59 AM Lilly Clint why would I want to get myself into trouble with the law of a minor when I'm a single mom of a wonderful 2 year old little girl
12/30/2008 2:17:08 AM Lilly Clint ain't worth it
12/30/2008 2:17:18 AM Lilly Clint besides I'm with Brian
12/30/2008 2:21:15 AM Lilly Clint well my last suggestion prove the truth and have fun in game, leave or forever be known as a multi
notice the RED - that is where I seen he had a cam
notice the BLUE - where I canceled the request when he denied
notice the GREEN - this is the comment I quoted above
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| Jack09 wrote: | | Ya its fun but when we start and all of us get accusations about being a multi that ruins everything, so if you want people to join your game you would have to be more open minded, and the things i got quoted on about proxies, its funny cause they only put in part of what i said and not the whole thing so the evidence against be is being manipulated to make me look like a multi instead of four people just playing a game. |
I posted the whole thing where's your reply at now Clint? Is the evidence still being manipulated??? |
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Yes actually who are you, caue the person who said i was a multi was alpha, and you come along saying you know me and im just wondering who are you?
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| Jack09 wrote: | | Yes actually who are you, caue the person who said i was a multi was alpha, and you come along saying you know me and im just wondering who are you? |
Well Alpha came to me with a concern and advised me of everything that was seen and heard, and knowing that I've hunted multies in the past wanted to know my thoughts... I wanted to speak to you myself but wasn't sure of how to get a hold of you so I asked Alpha to give you my MSN info... and after further review I wanted to find a way to put this all behind us for good thus mentioning the cam issue I did last night... and with past experience with multi-hunting if the suspected wasn't lying then they would have no problem showing multiple faces all at once on a cam for no more the 2 minutes... I firmly stand behind my thoughts that you were (as you've deleted all 4 accounts all within minutes of one another) an honest man usually doesn't delete all accounts unless they were caught up...
I wanted to assist you by getting the accusations dropped completely and thrown out the window... but you refused and even made yourself look even worse by deleting all your accounts...
I may not be in game but I am kept up to date by many who are my eyes in this game...
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Wait so your lilly, and alpha of the wolf pack is also lilly?
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Cause alpha told me she was lilly
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| Jack09 wrote: | | Cause alpha told me she was lilly |
well that was because i gave alpha permission to call them self lilly as they didn't want to give up their true identity... for reasons not to be discussed... |
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this has gone a bit far.....
it is one thing to accuse someone of being a multi, it is another for a 26 (almost 27) year old woman to be requesting a MSN with a 15 yr old, and on top of that REQUESTING A WEB CAM.
I doubt a 15yr old's Mother would appreciate her son playing a game with that happening.
I am all for hunting and removing multi's. supposedly DL is not playing so therefor there is no reason for DL to have any concern of multi's in game.
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| Durago wrote: | this has gone a bit far.....
it is one thing to accuse someone of being a multi, it is another for a 26 (almost 27) year old woman to be requesting a MSN with a 15 yr old, and on top of that REQUESTING A WEB CAM.
I doubt a 15yr old's Mother would appreciate her son playing a game with that happening.
I am all for hunting and removing multi's. supposedly DL is not playing so therefor there is no reason for DL to have any concern of multi's in game.
looks more to me like a pervy stalker thing about to happen.
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ROFL... Jov - its not like I asked the boy to be naked and I don't care whether or not I am in game - I can still monitor the multi status from the outside... I will do what I want as I want... and as for me requesting an MSN from a 15 year old... yah well I have MJ on my MSN too... I use MSN for gaming purposes only... maybe if you looked into MSN jov your alliance would improve... there is quite a few ST'ers that use it |
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DL you are an "inactive" player, you said you are not ingame as a player. you accuse people of stuff and freaked out a 15yr old and his friends.
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you are not the spacetrace multi removal team, and i say you stepped way overboard asking a 15 yr old to webcam,
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the same % you told clint he had to give you to clear him of being a multi.
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ya quite a lot mean about four, and im sure allowed alpha to use your name so she didnt give out her true identity if you ask me i think your running more than one account and are accusing other people to get the lime light off yourself
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| Senor wrote: | | jeebus...this is pure gold here people! |
like a big golden steaming t urd
somebody musta ate too many yams over the holidays
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