divider for newbies vs goodplayers

[admin]

what about this:

to prevent that big players always grow on "newbie-bashing" there is a dividor for the points, that grows with the point difference between the two fighting players.

e.g.:
player 1 with 11.000 points fights against player 2 with 1.000 points -> difference 10.000 points
player 1 looses:
1 cruiser -> 100 MP
and player 2 looses:
3 motherships -> 960 MP
so usually the score would be 860 plus for player 1 and 860 minus for player 2
now there is the the dividor, that lowers the ponts if the difference between the players is too big:
if the difference is between
0-1999 points -> dividor=1 (no change)
2000-2499 points -> dividor=1.5
2500-2999 points -> dividor=2
3000-3499 points -> dividor=2.5
3500-3999 points -> dividor=3
4000-4999 points -> dividor=4
5000-5999 points -> dividor=5
...
9000-9999 points -> dividor=9
>=10000 points -> dividor=10

so in this case, the dividor would be 10 and player 1 would get only 86 points for this battle and player 2 looses 86 points



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: admin on 2002-02-08 12:44 ]</font>

[TobyF]

Nice idea!
I would like it!

Whats about that:
If someone has the score 0 nobody can get score by fighting him. This would stop newbie-bashing immediatelly!

And nobody can use farm-planets or such things!

Toby

[Frederik]

This seems like a great idea to keep the game competitive all the time. It makes it easier for new players to clime up the ladder and harder (more interesting) to maintain a top position.
What I didnt found back but think is included in your idea is that the divider is only activated if the big player wins.

And I believe this line is a typo?
2000-2999 points -> dividor=1.5

[admin]

i corrected that up in the post

and sure, only if the stronger player wins the dividor is active

[peace of love]

1) than u have to do the zero points minimum.

otherwise i ll lose points when winning against someone with minuspoints

2) but more IMPORTANT :

that one doesnt work !!!!

because every alliance has just to recruit some newbes to attck the big guys of other alliances...

i dont think it funny for a good player to have hordes of newbes invading and all he can do is
not losing score but no chance of gaining some...

SO ITS NOT GOOD!!!

--> as i have some minus points i ll visit pretty soon the green dragon as I (!) have nothing to lose
but i think there is NO FUN for green dragon and other good players, because every newbe will do so!


peace

[peace of love]

forget about 1)
--> i didnt read the above properly

but 2) is still very important.

and to complete that:

3) if i am good i have to do several battles with good players to gain lets say 2000 points more. what should be very hard as they are good players...
and lose it in one lucky or good planned combined newbee attack. and newbees have a really good chance of "goodplayer-bashing"

peace



peace

[Frederik]

Perhaps its possible to only activate the divider when the bigger player attacks(and wins)?

[admin]

i see ...

so the only points in the galaxy where there should be this newbie-protection-dividor (strategy-level) have to be the planets of the players that are attacked and have less points.

i think you should see the strategy-level in the com screen:

"this player has a strategy level 5 below yours"

this means, if you attack the planet of someone with 5000 points less than you and you win, then you would have to deal with the dividor 5

i think also, that the divider should only be used at players that have less then, lets say 2000 points.

but at the moment i think nobody is cheating this way anyway, so i think we will add this feature at the next round

[tha bunch]

i thought about it another time and i think its oright like it is ( maybe not perfect)

but if one player had some bad luck and lost a lot of points he could decide to abandon his planet and start a new account.

he will loose all his research time, but has 0 points.

this decision is for a newbie ok, but for a long-time player a drawback.

this seems well balanced.

[Robert Roy]

I'd like to bring this thread back to life.

I think this is a VERY good idea.

[mjx1]

this is a stupid idea

players which may loose points too bad luck need too work it back up and if your in a high rank alliance and youve lost a few points u are motivated too earn them back before you drag the alliance down if we change it so u cant get less than 0 points we are just dumbing the game down the whole idea of stratergy may soon become meaningless because when getting attack the player isnt looking at his dsp and saying SHIT!!!!! and quickly changing his fleets around he is going oh well i cant loose anything let the player have his points this is stupid
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[Metody I The Evil]

Bad idea.
Imagine a freshly respawned vet going after his old enemy.
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[Connor McCloud]

Bad idee , it would work in rounds not in Evo ! ! I agree with Metody , you attack a top 10 player you never loose because the difference in score is to big , so the only thing you do is F*ck up the top 10 players fleet so he can't fight a good battle .

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[Rubens]

Well when i saw the post i imagined Rob reopening threads again.
But this time i think he has suggest something, i thinkbad, but something that gives a lot to talk

Before, just smart persons gave opinions. A lot fundamented to me.
But the noobs are noobs, they will become vets someday. We cant allow them to have more facilities at the game.
It is a ridicolous idea AS in evo and AS in rounds. Cuz the top ten would be a lot different! the better score would be changed. Will be again, another ST.

Now, i ams till thinking that in such a game like this, wich is dieing, we shall think a lot a find a usefull suggestion that DOSNT prevent noob bashing but makes it less destructive to the players.

[Metody I The Evil]

[admin]

maybe we start it another way:

today i got a mail from old wizzard of oz alias peace of love:

[T2]

Admin... i'm for any idea you may have that will prevent artificially inflated scores and help new players not get bombed into oblivion.

Try it... we'll assist in working out any bugs or deficiencies that arise and give an opinion after a round.

[Inatic]

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[T2]

"horrible idea"

Please provide details as to why you think this is a bad idea.

No arguing...just wondering if you see something I do not.